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It's a lovely sunny day so it must be time for a round of everyone's favourite game "word Nazis". Your task, should you choose to accept it, is to grouse volubly about more or less common and more or less egregious misuses of perfectly reputable English words.

Naturally I shall begin.

Disinterested. No, it's not a synonym for uninterested, still less for bored. It means unbiased or neutral as in not having a pecuniary interest in. Got that!

Shrapnel. No, it doesn't mean odd bits of metal splinters that fly around when something explodes. It's a particular kind of ordnance invented by one Lt. (later Maj-Gen) Henry Shrapnel in which a fuzed charge is used to eject a bunch of steel or lead balls from a shell container.

Please feel free to continue self righteously in comments or elsewhere.

Date: 2006-05-24 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemur-man.livejournal.com
'Incidence' is not a way of saying 'incident' that makes you sound smarter. Quite the opposite.

'Momentarily' is 'for a very short time', not 'soon'.

Houses get burgled (that's what burglars do - they burgle), not 'burglarized'.

'Equally' or '(just) as ... as', not 'equally as'.

I could go on all day, but that tea break's not going to take itself, you know.

Date: 2006-05-24 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kadenza.livejournal.com
My peeve of the moment is the misuse of "me" and "I". And don't get me started on "myself".

Date: 2006-05-24 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chickenfeet2003.livejournal.com
And don't get me started on "myself".

Me, myself, I shan't

Date: 2006-05-24 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] f4f3.livejournal.com
Refute means to disprove an argument. Not to dispute it, nitpick, or offer some other view of reality that suits you better.

Date: 2006-05-24 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] f4f3.livejournal.com
I'm sorry, have you paid for this argument?

Date: 2006-05-24 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dyddgu.livejournal.com
Decimate. When will people learn that that does not mean "totally to destroy"??! FFs, even the BBC do it these days!!!

Also people who use "Shall" when they mean "Will" because they think it makes them sound posher. I have specific wankers in mind here... (http://www.historicalfencing.org/Macdonaldacademy/master.htm)

Date: 2006-05-24 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dyddgu.livejournal.com
Oh! Oh! And "Epicentre" is not a better way of saying "middle", or centre, or any other damned thing.

Date: 2006-05-24 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chickenfeet2003.livejournal.com
The rules that eg Fowler gives for the use of 'will' and 'shall' are so arcane it's a wonder everybody hasn't done an American and defaulted to the compound future. Personally, I shall continue to use 'shall' where it seems appropriate though.

Date: 2006-05-24 03:48 pm (UTC)
owlfish: (Default)
From: [personal profile] owlfish
Ten percent down is very demoralizing. There's no need for news agencies to, oh, centimate things.

Date: 2006-05-24 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyroclasticgrub.livejournal.com
Decimate refers to reducing by decimals, no?

Decimate is one of those terms that gets thrown around when discussing the impact of the virgin soil epidemics that hit Indigenous peoples in the last 400 years.

"The Copper Inuit were decimated by tuberculosis" or some such thing.

Date: 2006-05-24 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chickenfeet2003.livejournal.com
It originates from the practice in the Roman Army of executing one man in ten in units that had behaved disgracefully. The Red Army resorted to something similar on occasions during WW2.

Date: 2006-05-24 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyroclasticgrub.livejournal.com
Well, that makes total sense.

Date: 2006-05-25 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] albionwood.livejournal.com
So, just to be clear about it: Decimate means to reduce by 10%. Not 90%, or any other factor.

Barbara Hambly at least knows what it means; she has Benjamin January remember his Classical education at a crucial point, avoiding decimation by standing third in line.

Date: 2006-05-25 08:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhythmaning.livejournal.com
I'm with you on "decimate" - but unfortunately popular usage means that the incorrect meaning is now accepted as common practice in most dictionaries.

True, popular doesn't make it right!

Date: 2006-05-24 03:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kalypso-v.livejournal.com
"Lie" is an intransitive verb. "Lay" is a transitive verb. They are not synonyms, even though I know it's confusing that "lay" is the past tense of "lie". It is not the past tense of "lay"; that's "laid".

Actually, I don't think this is confusing at all, I'm just condescending to those who keep irritating me by getting them wrong.

Date: 2006-05-24 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bopeepsheep.livejournal.com
Fug is a perfectly acceptable word. Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince has been out nearly a year now and it's still doing the rounds as 'a misprint'. When's the paperback due? I will type up a definition and c&p it wherever necessary.

Enormity. Oh, the horror...

Date: 2006-05-24 03:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nanila
A wretch may retch. And retching is wretched.

Date: 2006-05-24 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chickenfeet2003.livejournal.com
Hungover again?

Date: 2006-05-24 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] knirirr.livejournal.com
Confusion of accept and except, affect and effect, less and fewer.

Date: 2006-05-25 08:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itchyfidget.livejournal.com
*worships you*

Date: 2006-05-24 03:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rosinarowantree.livejournal.com
'Literally' when 'literally' isn't meant literally, but just for emphasis. That literally makes me tear my head off.

Date: 2006-05-24 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keithlard.livejournal.com
'Infamous' does not mean 'notorious'.

Date: 2006-05-24 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyroclasticgrub.livejournal.com
You should play this everyday for my benefit.

Can I request a definition for a word that often gets mangled? I guess I could just yank out the old OED.

Date: 2006-05-24 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemur-man.livejournal.com
'Everyday' - daily or quotidian in nature
'Every day' - day after day

Sorry, this one bothers me.

Date: 2006-05-24 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyroclasticgrub.livejournal.com
Well, I can blame the immersion system for teaching me poor english, since it isn't my first language.

Date: 2006-05-24 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chickenfeet2003.livejournal.com
I wish my French was a small fraction as good as your English.

Date: 2006-05-24 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyroclasticgrub.livejournal.com
And you're not really sorry, are you? ;)

Date: 2006-05-24 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemur-man.livejournal.com
Well, it was initially 'sorry' as in 'Sorry, but you're wrong! Ha!' but now I feel bad for correcting a non-native speaker who was poorly taught.

Date: 2006-05-24 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyroclasticgrub.livejournal.com
Irregardless. This one annoys me. It does not mean, "Well, anyway, back to what I was saying..."

Date: 2006-05-24 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com
It doesn't mean anything at all, as it's not a word.

Date: 2006-05-24 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalianspring.livejournal.com
ETA: I'm sure you know this, but I can't help pointing it out anyway.

Date: 2006-05-24 05:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] gillo
enormity does not mean "very big". And you can have an amount of flour but not of words or people.

And apostrophes do not make plurals!

Date: 2006-05-24 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginny-t.livejournal.com
I'm surprised no one has mentioned "impact" as a verb. It is not a verb. It is a noun. Correct: to have an impact on. Incorrect: to impact.

And then there's proactive. *grumblesnarl*

I see the grocer's apostrophe and irregardless got mentioned. Those are triggers for me, too.

Date: 2006-05-25 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] albionwood.livejournal.com
Impact! That one makes my teeth ache. In my field (environmental engineering) it might just be the single most consistently misused word. For some reason, nobody wants to say "the water is polluted with chemicals," or even "contaminated," so they flail about searching for a less direct way of saying it. Over and over again, you read about water that "has been impacted by" some chemical or another. Aaargh!

Date: 2006-05-25 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_hypatia_/
Oh I *hate* impact used as a verb. This reaction is possibly strengthened by the fact that I hear it so often in buzzword bingo speech.

Ditto the grocer's apostrophe and general sloppiness/text speak in emails etc. I quote from one of today's emails:

In terms of DBA support the only area's that we need consideration for sre the index's and optimisers on the Databases in the Test Environment. Since this was a problem that we faced during the last test cycle for 1.5.

There are some minor schema changes that need to be applied as per the new BRR's but this is something the DEV team can execute.


This from a highly paid, client facing graduate on the Consulting (ie premium) career path.

Words failed me.

He's an arrogant twat as well.



Date: 2006-05-25 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginny-t.livejournal.com
O.M.G. That is disgusting!

Date: 2006-05-24 05:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] white_hart
Checkouts in supermarkets with signs that say '10 items or less'.

People at work who think that the thing they keep their pens and teabags in is a 'draw'.

Its instead of it's. And vice versa.

'Perogative' instead of 'prerogative'. And anyone who says 'pacific' instead of 'specific' (the lecturer for my final level Business Strategy exam did this. It's a wonder I made it through a three-day course without screaming.)

Date: 2006-05-25 08:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itchyfidget.livejournal.com
One of my students says "pacific" for "specific". Her writing is no better.

Date: 2006-05-24 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-d-medievalist.livejournal.com
"draw" is at least absolutely acceptable regional dialect.

'reference' when used as a verb (although technically correct, I hate it)

"subsequently" and "consequently" are not the same.

"Thusly"

Date: 2006-05-24 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minx-minx.livejournal.com
There is no such thing as very unique. Either something is unique or it isn't -- no degrees.

Date: 2006-05-25 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] albionwood.livejournal.com
"Orientated." Because oriented just doesn't sound active enough, I guess.

Date: 2006-05-25 08:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhythmaning.livejournal.com
Business talk: "impact", "key", ooh, I could go on.

I get really annoyed when people use "et cetera" as a verbal tick - I was at a very good talk on Tuesday, but the guy spolit it by saying "et cetera" after every sentence. This is something that I hate about the writing of George Orwell, which I otherwise love.

Date: 2006-05-25 08:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhythmaning.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, "with all respect". Ha!

Date: 2006-05-25 08:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itchyfidget.livejournal.com
"Eck cetera" (can these people not read??)

I think others have covered most of my other pet peeves (affect/effect; everyday/every day; less/fewer)

"Off my own back" - it's BAT, you moron!

Log in (verb) versus login (noun/adjective, whatever you may think of it as a construction).

I'm surprised nobody's brought up the business-manglish "to action something".

I have a list of these that my students use, but it's at work.

Date: 2006-05-25 08:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itchyfidget.livejournal.com
To clarify, I have a list of mistakes that my students have made. I don't give them the list. Though perhaps I should.

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